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Chicks and Turkey poults together?
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Chicks and Turkey poults together?
Hi everyone! Just bought a small hobby farm, and we're planning to bring in chickens, turkeys and pigs this spring. We're very green to all of this: does anyone have experience with keeping chicks and turkey poults in the same brooder? We've determined that we'll keep them in separate coops once grown (though they will share pasture), but can they be brooded together? Our plan is for 35-40 Chantecler chics, and 3 or 4 Small White turkeys.

Also, does a brooding area 8' x 8' sound large enough for this many birds, assuming we can move them into their coops at about 5 weeks of age?

Thanks, and hopefully soon I can be answering questions for some greenies like myself! :)

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RE: Chicks and Turkey poults together?
Welcome to the forum!

Beltsville smalls? You CAN brood them together for a short time (to see the size difference, have a look at the live webcam show from HolyCrow right now - she's got a bunch of Beltsvilles hatched out, and I can see one Chantie in there), but it's not a great idea. Chick starter is lower in protein than turkey starter, and the turkeys will outgrow the chicks very quickly. I once read that turkeys spend the first 7 weeks of their lives trying to commit suicide - after that they are indestructible. This pretty much matches my (limited) experience with turkeys, so I like to give them the best start I can! Icon_wink
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RE: Chicks and Turkey poults together?
I'll be brooding some chickens & a few turkey day-olds together end of April. Here's what I'm doing, hopefully it's useful to you:

- Make sure to increase protein in feed. It shouldn't hurt your chicken chicks for the short term, but will make them grow stronger & feather out nicely. Some people intentionally give meat birds turkey starter to grow them out better.

- Turkey chicks get the benefit of learning how to drink from water via the chickens. This makes them less suicidal...barely.

- Just before turkeys get to the point where they might start stepping on the chicks, separate them.

- Blackhead is a risk with keeping chickens & turkeys together but there are natural prevention methods you can use. One is cayenne pepper in the feed/water, in addition to fresh garlic. If blackhead is common in your area, you'd want to do this more often.

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RE: Chicks and Turkey poults together?
I don't have any experience raising chicks and turkies together, but i did recently see a Salatin video where he says he just mixes the chick and turkey starter together. He says the turkies will pick out the high protien and the chicks prefer the starchier low protein feed. Seems to be working well for him at least.

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RE: Chicks and Turkey poults together?
I raise chicks and turkeys together on a 22% multifowl starter, later on in life they get 18% developer. Just watch for agression, I actually had one batch of turkeys bullied by chicks a thitd their size. Lots of space and spread out feeding stations help alot

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RE: Chicks and Turkey poults together?
MAR from my understanding it won't cure it if BH is already present & killing the birds. It will however act more as a preventative. If an area is way highly susceptible to BH than normal then I'd probably say go with non-natural medication. My own area seems to have no issues, so I'm fine with taking the risks. Cayenne pepper has a lot of other bonus uses to it, so it's part of my flock's diet anyways. :)

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RE: Chicks and Turkey poults together?
So all the books/websites say that turkeys need a higher temperature than chickens in the brooder.

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RE: Chicks and Turkey poults together?
Our brooders are about 5x5 and its recommended for a max of 35 chicks. So an 8x8 will be fine, the poults get big fast though and need more space. The poults need some help getting started, but the chicks usually teach them (this is from the wisdom of my turkey mentor not from personal experience, I got my poults at a few days old). You can feed the chicks and turkeys a poultry starter (I use 22% multi fowl starter).
Have fun, they're all fun to grow. Chanties are beautiful, I'm getting a few this year as well. You should try some colorful turkeys too, part of growing them (for me anyways) is enjoying their beautiful colors.

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RE: Chicks and Turkey poults together?
If they have that many chicks and other poults with them, I wouldn't worry. They'll huddle if they're cold. Just keep a 250 watt heat lamp on them and watch their behavior. If they seem cold, you can keep one lower in the other end of the box for the turkeys.

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RE: Chicks and Turkey poults together?
My brooders are all set up with a hot spot and a cooler end, they will self regulate very well. I havent used it but cyan is more a preventative. Bh seams to strike in high stress (bullied birds) hot wet periods for me. I keep metronidazole pills on hand just in case but really its not that big of a deal. Keep an eye on your flock, youll see it.

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RE: Chicks and Turkey poults together?
I always found if the chicks whatever breed were to cold they would all huddle right under lamp on top of one another if scattered away from lite center they were to hot . I just moved my bulb up or down as needed . Never used a brooder just chick guard ( cheap) sized to # of chicks & in a circle . No corners to pile up in .at one time Purina I think had a one feed fits all breeds feed , don't know if still available . st/gr/finisher.

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RE: Chicks and Turkey poults together?
Hello,

I have raised chickens, turkeys and ducks together. They say that you are not suppose to because ducks are too wet and turkeys can get blackhead from the chickens but I did not have an issue. I think I never had a problem because I free ranged my birds once they were old enough to do so. The turkeys were HUGE (38 pounds dressed!) and they never hurt anyone because they are so slow and docile. In fact the chickens would hide under them. I felt guilty on slaughter day that I separated them all :( They were fantastic friends! No one ever got sick, so I would say that if you don't have the room don't put them together BUT if you have a huge pasture or are free ranging, you might try it. Just keep your flock(s) at a reasonable size and keep the bedding clean and dry.



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Just my two cents worth :)

We raised a few chicks with Bourbon Red poults last year and had no issues at all. The chicks did not seem to mind the higher protein (if anything they seemed to thrive) and the poults learned how to fend for themselves more easily by following the chicks' lead. Once the poults had "outgrown" the chicks and were doing well on their own, we did separate them. But we never had any issues. All the poults lived and grew well, no health issues, as did the chicks.

This year we have three chicks in with our turkey poults, and again so far everyone seem to be happy and healthy. In our limited experience with this, I think as long as you use large breed, hardy bred chicks and keep them on turkey starter with the poults (and not try chick starter for the poults) you will do fine.

Good luck and let us know what you decide to do!

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And a picture of the happy bunch (and I was wrong....there are 4 chicks in there...forgot about the Easter Egger LOL!)
[Image: turkey_poults.jpg]

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What are the benefits of using cayenne pepper and how much would you use?
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